A British man accused of leading a neo-Nazi group with a rabid anti-LGBTQ stance has outed himself as bisexual amid court proceedings.
Prosecutors allege that Andrew Dymock, 23, from Bath, served as a leader and mentor for the System Resistance Network (SRN), a neo-Nazi group. Lawyers in the case also claim that Dymock authored several manifestos for the group, including one titled “Homosexuality: the Eternal Social Menace.” The article declares that queer people “are simply degenerate and must be purged from society for the greater good”.
Police arrested Dymock in 2018 at Gatwick Airport as he tried to smuggle right-wing propaganda to the United States. Charges against him stem from 2017 and 2018 for disseminating hateful propaganda on the SRN website and Twitter account.
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The BBC reports that prosecutor Jocelyn Ledward referred to SRN as anti-Semitic, and presented material that was part of “an agenda against the LGBT community.” Prosecutors also presented two video clips, one showing masked men–one of whom is allegedly Dymock–encouraging viewers to “join your local Nazis.” Another showed two masked men putting up anti-gay posters and stickers in a neighborhood just prior to a Pride event.
As a strange coda to all this evidence, jurors also heard recordings of a police interview with Dymock, in which he actually comes out himself.
“I am bisexual but lean towards being homosexual,” Dymock says in the recording. Also of note: Dymock wore a pride flag pin on his lapel during the court appearance.
Andrew Dymock stands accused of five counts of encouraging terrorism, four of disseminating terrorist publications, two of terrorist fundraising, one of possessing material useful to a terrorist, one of possessing racially inflammatory material, one of stirring up racial hatred, and one of stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation. He has denied all charges.
lacciani
Those who protest too much are usually gay themselves
Chrisk
No surprise here. For those that are violently anti gay you might as well have a neon sign over there heads that says major closet case. They’re fighting an inner turmoil.
He’s still young so there’s still hope he can turn his life around.
ted
Tony Perkins, Lindsey Graham, Brian Brown of NOM, Xtian leaders
Donston
Someone else “comes out” while being in a shitty situation and/or while being accused of shitty things. It’s become a tiresome pattern. “Coming out” is not a get out of jail card either literally or from a social standpoint. Even if he has truly “changed his life” and “come to his senses”, it’s still hella tacky and manipulative. And what about the racist shit?
Troyfight
““I am bisexual but lean towards being homosexual,” Dymock says in the recording. Also of note: Dymock wore a pride flag pin on his lapel during the court appearance.” .
….maybe: fauxmosexual
Donston
Why do folks love taking the actual topic and turning it into something else? Plenty of “straight” and hetero people rock the “pride flag” to show solidarity or whatever. Plenty of different types of “queers” rock the “pride flag”. Many inherently bi or pan people embrace the “pride flag” to show the world the world that they have no gay shame, or to show that they have homo-leaning preferences, or that they’re currently in a homo relationship, or are looking for “gay” love and commitment. The “gay pride” flag no longer just stands for being a homosexual.
There’s a lot of mess here. While this is a messy dude who seems like he’s at least partially trying to use “coming out” and a pride flag to get some sympathy from the court. But you’re choosing to focus on the wrong shit.
jonasalden
Who is this Donston guy? He talks so much s**t on this site, It makes you wonder what his agenda REALLY is. The fact is, coming out when your neck is on the chopping block is so Kevin Spacey. And for people of discernment, that is immediately clear. So why is Donston arguing otherwise?
Donston
Where in my post did I argue otherwise? The poster was trying to use some supposed contradiction of the gay pride flag and him claiming a bi identity. I called out that that type of shade is outdated. Also, my agenda is exactly what’s in my posts. And yes, I talk shit and will continue to do so.
Hdtex
“Donston” is garbage.
Disregard the troll.
Cam
Thinking that all of his attacks on LGBTQ people will be ignored if he wears a pride pin.
As per usual, the most rabid anti-LGBTQ bigots, are self hating closet cases.
Fahd
Well, I’m skeptical, but I guess if he convinces the judge that it was all just about his personal struggle to come to terms with his own sexuality, it could be a mitigating factor when it comes to sentencing. – He’s not that bad, just really troubled? BTW, what’a the potential sentence for disseminating hateful propaganda or whatever the charges are here?
Gadfeal
The lesson here is that other democracies have laws against malicious propaganda with intent to harm others. In the US, there is no such law under the “umbrella” of “free speech”. More than half of the Republicans in Congress would have been subject to arrest based on statements that would have triggered investigations in most of Western Europe. (I don’t know enough about other democratic nations).
When will our 250 year old Constitution, an obsolete legal document crafted when there were 13 States and 200-300k eligible voters, be updated? The Amendment process is now unworkable (75% of Congress, and 75% of States ratifying); one of the last Amendments, in the 1990s, to subject Congressional compensation to a vote took — get this — nearly 200 YEARS for the requiste 75% or more States to ratify. In 1800, that meant some 10 States, with about 200k eligible voters (fewer than a medium sized city today); today, one would require 38 States to ratify.
So, is DC, population > Vermont’s or Wyoming’s, or PR, population > 40% of US States, ever going to become States? I doubt it when there are States like Wyoming with fewer than 600k people (and 270k eligible voters) have 2 Senators – as many as California, with 40 MILLION inhabitants. Obviously, low population States will fight tooth and nail to keep an antidemocratic attribution of Senatorial privilege ongoing.
The only way forward is to adopt Trump’s playbook, withhold Federal discretionary funding from States that fail to ratify Amendments that reflect democratic (small “d”) improvements.
PR, despite repeated referenda to become a State, has had neither Party even table such an amendment; its population has dropped from just under 4 million to just over 3 million since the turn of the century, accelerated by the disastrous handling by the Administration of hurricane Maria. That’s a population greater than 20 States’ with no effective representation.
Then, the other grossly undemocratic situation is for the 8-12 million expatriate US citizens, greater than some 80% of US States’ populations, who a) have to file US taxes until death, b) but can ONLY vote in the last local district where registered. Since only a small fraction of registered voters are “expatriate”, there is no Congressional representation of this very large but “electorally ignored” population.
Will there be updating of the US Constitution? In my lifetime, probably not.
butchqueen
Push him down stairs.
barryaksarben
I have to agree with you
BoomerMyles
Neo-nazi’s are OK with themselves having “sex” with other men as long as they don’t call themselves gay.
Trixxx
That’s exactly correct and I can attest to that as a former lover of mine was a avid white supremacy supporter and I regularly had gay sex and believe it or not he had as many black sex partners as I did as a teen and that was dozens
BoomerMyles
Completely agree.
The Constitution is completely outdated. Especially the 2nd amendment when it took 3 minutes to load a musket that only fired one round.
Manrico Jimenez
If only the US would be as stringent on domestic terrorism as the UK seems to be.
barryaksarben
BUT WE DONT WANT HIM
Kangol2
I’ve pointed this out before, and you can find studies on Psychology Today’s website, etc., but experimental studies have shown a correlation between extreme homophobic thoughts and actions, and same-sexual arousal, or in laymen’s terms, many extreme homophobes do have repressed and latent same-sexual desire. Some of the act on it too, and this horrid right-wing racist homophobic creep Andrew Dymock is in that category.
Donston
I think it’s become very apparent that a decent percentage of aggressively homophobic/anti-gay/anti-queer dudes have an extent/type of queerness in them. We also know by now that “coming out” or adhering to whatever identities does not absolve you of hate, resentment, internalized phobias, insecurities. Those things are often still there, ready to pop up at any moment. And they definitely don’t absolve you of past criminal behaviors. While no doubt that “coming out” in the court room was a calculated move. The extremes that some people go to deal with sociological pressures, traumas, confusions/contradictions, resentments, mental health struggles, etc. is sad though.
penus
Woof
humble charlie
It is his god-given right to be a murderous hypocrite. I think it’s in one the Amendments.
BaltoSteve
Reading this, the only think I can think of is Jim Nabors as Gomer Pyle, “Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!”
Mambo
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”